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Is the RTX 4070 Ti faster than the RTX 3090 at 4k

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I compare the RTX 4070 Ti to the RTX 3090 in resolution scaling. The 4070 Ti only has a 192-bit memory bus which is half of the 3090. How well does it compare to the 3090 across resolutions? How well will the 4070 Ti age with its small 192-bit Memory Bus? And what else did I discover about the 4070 Ti at its target resolution that I have not heard anyone else talk about? Four Figure GPUs - Are High Prices Here to Stay? /watch/cWMEfha0kDS0E #4070ti, #RTX4070ti, #4070tiVs3090

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    @bigblack2295last year Your reviews are really great. That effiency comparison is a great idea. 8
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    @LuciusVulpeslast year Your previous video on the efficiency of the 4070ti was what convinced me into getting one. I still hate the price but i' m not disappointed nor do . ...Expand 34
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    @dondraper4438last year Times like this are why i am glad i got back into emulation. 5
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    @Carsons12last year The power efficiency of the 4070ti is nice, but the vram 12gb is a huge concern if you' re planning on 4k gaming, not just the 192bit memory bus. You' ll . ...Expand 55
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    @OneTwoMark6 months ago Im hoping the 4070 super coming soon in january will offer near 4070ti performance levels for a 4070 price. Would be a nice bonus if they also make it 16gb vram too. 2
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    @amintaghizadan6333last year Awesome video this. I could have guessed it be the case but the analysis you provide here just makes things clear and takes the guessing game out of the equation. Wonderful work. 2
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    @user-iq334last year This card is the best 1440p card you could get, i have it and play games on my 240hz display. It' s not a 4k card by any means! I returned my 4k 144hz monitor because playing 4k high refresh rate is so damn expensive. 6
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    @mrdot1126last year Is this testing (fps/power graph ) with raw hardware performance? Without any software stuff enabled?
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    @techtechuw5974 months ago What a perfect examples and explanations! Well done!
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    @misterpinkandyellow74last year Thank you for talking about this important issue. More people need to be made aware of this. I got a 7900xt instead of a 4070yi because of this reason. 3
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    @jettsomlast year Driver will get better over time with the 4070ti, it is also way less power hungry and has better dlss. 5
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    @HidroPiglast year The bandwith difference is quite large, but otoh the 4070 ti also has 48mb l2 vs 6mb l2 in the 3090, so that might help in keeping the performance difference as it is right now. 24
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    @Anthony_Khmelenko9 months ago I bought 3090 to play on 1080p display in 60fps. Why?
    1. Quiet (coolers don' t even rotating in half of the games)
    2. It fits my power 3. Less power use = longer life (i hope)
    4. Well i work with real time rendering, so sometimes i need those 82 rt cores
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    @qubes8728last year Despite nvidias decision to basically starve the 4070ti its genuinely a beast of a card no matter what people say. The numbers dont lie. Sure it has id="hidden10" less bandwidth and vram but its on new architecture and node and it trades blows with last years bad boy while using 100w less. ...Expand 17
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    @BookOfChanlast year Great vid, ive been trying to choose between the 2.
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    @SuperCapuka8 months ago I game at 4K/60hz when i saw the Memory bus and Bandwidth of the 4070ti i knew it wasn't going to serve my needs. you made me a subscriber! Thanks for the content. .. ...Expand
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    @MrDazTroyerlast year Definitely looking forward to the cpu bottleneck video as i have a 4070ti paired with a oc 10700k until i' ve the funds for an am5 board and cpu. 2
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    @bilalcemal7 months ago Which one gives higher fps in games like pubg cs and there are no lags or freezes?
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    @Fuudimitzu8 months ago You shouldn' t lower power usage by lowering power limits but by undervolting. That way you can lower power usage while maintaining almost all performance, . ...Expand 1
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    @reiudfgq3vrh34urlast year Issue is vram its gonna kill it once new games come out and no longer care about old gen consoles. 3
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    @LowTierFootPedallast year My 4070ti overclocks +210mhz on core
    +1350mhz on memory.
    was running re4 remake demo native 4k max settings " without and the average was 75 fps.
    witcher 3 next gen dx12 4k dlss quality " withoutbut everything else is onsettings, including hair works maxed out, i' m getting 72 fps average.
    if this is not a 4k capable card, i don' t know what is, i just want you to know i' m totally enjoying gaming on my 4k monitor with it
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    @denzelhernandez4917last year Im new to pc gaming and need a gpu which one is good to get?
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    @M1L2078last year Please also tell us how hot it gets in your room when using the 3090. I' ve heard that is like a heater turned on all the time. Is this true?
    thanks for the video.
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    @lirimeyerlast year Amazing video! Looking forward to the next one:
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    @pinoynobody2329last year 4070 ti is slightly faster but less stable than the 3090 and not much of an upgrade on games with no dlss support, which is why i stuck with the 3090, gonna hold out for 50 series or rx 80. 7
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    @homermorisson9135last year What is that game you have running while talking about the 3090 being a power-pig?
    never seen it before, but looks interesting!
    ah, nevermind, mentioned a bit later.
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    @KOT-ANGRY4 months ago Today bought used 3090 for 4070 price and its loud as hell. Will think about custom wc later. 1
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    @najeebshah.5 months ago Why would you play with power limits on ampere when a mere undervolt can shave 100 watts on a 3090 without hitting performance?
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    @pvtfruitloops5079 months ago Still picked up a 3090 (evga xc3) as it wont run into vram issues as soon, beefy bit bus, and this model will actually fit in my case haha.
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    @Hybredlast year I don' t understand if a game is cpu bottlenecked then why would having a different gpu give you noticeably more performance? Shouldn' t they be equal? 2
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    @ravipeiris43888 months ago Great analysis, thank you for the video. I purchased the 4070 ti for 4k gaming understanding that dlss and frame generation technologies will provide me . ...Expand
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    @midwestpotatolast year Wait so the ryzne 9 5950x isnt a good enough cpu for 4070 ti i was going to get this card i have a ryzen 9 7900x soo should i just stick with my 3070 ti.
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    @Dr.Kryptanicallast year Yeah i hate that tech youtubers were dogging down on the 4070ti at launch of course it' s gonna not perform as well but they were saying buy it" what they should of been saying isbuy it yet! " as the drivers improved and they optimised things on the software side the 4070 ti is very much a 4k card don' t let anyone tell you it' s a 2k card that' s complete bull. Also that was the fe that sucked the one i' m going for is the best performance one from what i' ve heard, so tomorrow is my payday i' m buying the rog strix 4070ti oc edition which is apparently the best version of the 4070ti in benchmarks and technically the 4070ti may suck in comparison to the top amd or the 4080 and 4090 but that still makes it the 4th best gpu in the gaming market arguably tied with the 3090ti as some games it performs better and some games it performs worse! . And i' d still argue to buy a 4070ti rog strix over a 3090 because their cooling is far superior to the 3090 which was notoriously hot, not to mention av1 encoding but heres the catch 22 if your wanting to play 2k resolution then get a 3080(cap your fps if your playing diablo for safety) you will barely scratch 50% utlization in alot of games at 2k resolution especially games like lost ark the gpu barely knows it' s there. You' d be wasting money on a gpu you don' t need unless you plan to upgrade to a 4k monitor which aren' t exactly cheap these days i got lucky in 2018 and got one for 179. 99 nowadays your looking at over 235 at least!
    if your just gaming i don' t think i could totally reccomend it for the price it' s at, i' m getting one because on my alt channel i am a content creator (this is just my watching vids ac) as a content creator there is multiple benefits since i' m upgrading from an old gpu the rx580 2048sp which is another factor to consider don' t buy it if you got a 3070ti your fine wait till this one goes down in price, however if your a content creator getting one you could probably start a second build with the gpu as it' s center which is what i' m doinf for now i' m putting it in with a 5600x and an a520m-k prime motherboard and those combined with my other components are gonna bottleneck the 4070ti oc by 13%any bottleneck under 5% is negligible) also keep in mind the gpu i' m getting requires 750w psu i' ve gone with a 10w rog 80+ gold psu i got it for 175 a year ago to give me overhead for the future!
    but next year i' m getting an am5 x670 gaming wi-fi and a ryzen 7 7700x with some 60mhz ddr5 ram and a rog nvme i' ll probably be putting this all in a rog helios case i get in august it takes me a long time since i' m a starting content creator i don' t make money so i save up what i do get off the government as investment into these parts to make a career with the use of this hardware so i' m doing this for very different reasons compared to a typical gamer who just doing it for fun!
    so it' s a good investment for start up content creators if you save 80 a fortnight for the next 6 months you could afford it though it will prob drop in price by then i was saving 40 up until late december so it might be quicker than 6 months i' ve been saving since early november time i upped it to 40 using 20 off each week of food and drink money which i can manage if i budget my groceries don' t do this if you can' t afford that!
    the 3070ti wouldn' t of made me happy i had a bad gut feeling and mine are usually never wrong the last time i didn' t listen to my gut feeling the domino effect it had gave me health conditions and dietary restrictions that have lasted since 2014 it changed my life for the past 9 years mostly for the worst! Had i got the 3070ti it wouldn' t of allowed me the 4k experience i wanted either, so i looked at my other options and the 4070ti had just come out and i had a good gut feeling about it this too will change my life and i had to wait the extra months from january to afford it but in the long term it' s cheaper cause i wont need to upgrade as soon as i would with the 3070ti which prob would of cost me double long term!
    but it provides features as a creator the 3070ti just simply doesn' t have since i can do a lower bit rate on av1 it means i can record 4k without it limiting my performance as much as it would on more standard encoding formats as the gpu is literally designed for it!
    another benefit to consider is when i go back to streaming i can use all the parts in my old rig to be a streaming pc for yt or twitch so if a game crashes the pc it doesn' t stop the stream and i won' t have obs streams hogging my performance!
    also i like playing badly optimised alphas with my current gpu the rx580 2048sp i can only run star citizen at 1080p getting anywhere between 18-30fps which sucks especially on a 28" 4k monitor as the image is stretched, using the games official website graphs i found people who had my same 5600x with a 4070ti could run it anywhere from 40fps to 53fps in 4k depending on the version of the 4070ti they had. Which is at least playable in 4k unlike my old build so i' ll take it and as they implement server meshing more that' s bound to improve the gameplay has stablized with the first iteration as despite the fps saying i got betwen 18fps and 30 it didn' t feel like it they seemed to have fixed microstutters in new babbage!
    yes they got an issue with login verification so alot couldn' t get in because they' d never been tested to have so many try to join the game at once but that' s nothing to do with the game server meshing it' s getting to the games main menu that is the issue as theres a 19k error ptu hasn' t had enough testers recently because they suck at ptu incentives. So when 3. 18 came to the live test there was well in the millions of players who wanted to play and the login verification server began crapping itself along with the support server for bug reports as everyone started doing support tickets it that web page server began to buckle too!
    that aside for those who got in there was some purchasing issues a re-occuring flight stick and controller issue that i keep getting that no one else does where when you fly in 3rd person it thinks the deadzones are controls for the free cam which makes flying 3rd person almost impossible on anything with a stick! But other than that object persistence is working voip, foip (face tracking) and other things were working far better than they had!
    object persistence means anything you drop on the floor stays there including ship debris that can be salvaged with the hull scraper tool or the vulture salvaging ship, people littered their bottles everwhere in the new babbage space port littering should have a fine, maybe i' ll suggest it to the devs it makes sense in a future society. So i grab each bottle slowly filling up the recycling bin with bottles like you would in real life object permanence is both a horrible and wonderful thing, and it' s a must first step in server meshing!
    even though i' ll probably be stuck with kb/m for now till they fix the deadzone 3rd person camera glitch i will be still playing i gotta re-learn landing ships with the keyboard and mouse which i haven' t done much since 2. 6 at least! I joined in 2. 4. 1 so i' ve been around a while)
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    @Vestu7 months ago Used rtx 3090 with a neat undervolt is a nobrainer.
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    @luisff70308 months ago I' m waiting for the next gen cpu to see if the cpu bottleneck decreases and what will happen to the fps.
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    @markusschulzbrolast year This channel deserves more subscribers! 2
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    @puppetmurderlast year As a 3090 owner who was looking to upgrade, thank you for all your hardwork on this video, i have subbed for your efforts ^^. 3
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    @chibonchibon39678 months ago Wow i' m mac answer many of my pc question, thanks for the info.
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    @M4rio21last year I' m pretty sure nvidia knows about the shortcomings of the 4x series cards so they subsidized it with software. Frame gen is only available on the . ...Expand 3
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    @JorgeAlarconLlast year At least from what you have shown, you just moved the power limit slider toyou can get your 3090 strix to at least 2100mhz using the same 480-500w limit with some vram oc. So basically getting 3090ti performance. ...Expand
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    @pf100andahalflast year I figured the gpu' s would be bottlenecked by the cpu because i' ve upgraded from zen 2 to zen 3, and then to a 5800x3d. Gpu' s are faster than . ...Expand 1
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    @PoRRasturvaT8 months ago Damn i' m glad i took a 3080ti on the used market.
    i didn' t want to give one cent to nvidia on the purchase of a 40 series card.
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    @citizenbluelast year Sounds like they have about an equal cost over time when you factor in power consumption.
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    @nanoatic5 months ago It' s funny how i got 3090 oc zotac while on sale and was the last unit, and it was cheaper than the 4070 ti.
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    @Jpwinks5 months ago Decided to buy a 3090 over 4070ti before this video. Just happy i chose correct!
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    @322-Dota2last year It is just good placeholder card till rtx 5090.
    4090 is too slow for 4k120 anyways, but too fast for 4k60.
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    @CalanReichellast year Card should have been $599. Absurdly overpriced for a card that is basically xx60 class card. 3
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    @ryzendave93037 months ago 4070ti is perfect for 2560-1440p and 3440-1440p tho just only approx 60fps at 4k.
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    @intactoarthur67954 months ago Great video just bought 3090 so it was interesting.
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    @PlutoniumX2last year Goodwait to see the cpu tests to check on bottlenecks. 1
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    @Philsonlast year We' cover that next time? Seriously? 1
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    @uchihasilver8362last year Can also undervolt the 3090 to make it much better. 4
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    @recordatronlast year Depending on the game, my 4080 driven by my 5900x can reach 99% usage at 1440p. Witcher 3 next gen is a good example with rt and other bells and whistles . ...Expand 2
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    @Meksikano6 months ago Wait why you have only 4gb vram on 4070 ti it shows it in unigine heaven.
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    @Squilliam-Fancysonlast year You have to restest with intel cpu sotr. This 58% gpu bound in 1440p is not normal. Guess it' s a amd driver bug.
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    @terranigma4027last year I hate how stingy nvidia are with the vram in their gpu' s. 9
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    @juan-in3cwlast year Very nice always detailed, and i highly believe your reviews are genuine bc ive seen you trash the xtx announcement while everyone nerding out on it. I i really wanted to play 4k but i didnt want to spend more than the 4070 ti. I am coming from a rx 5700, really wanted a high end gpu for the first time. Very nice review but now i am thinking twice if maybe i should just sell this second hand and maybe lose 50-100 bux now and buy something better but a lot later.
    hope someone can advice or somehow cheer me up lol. Thanks for the review, keep em honest reviews coming!
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    @fleabaglane7 months ago Since nov 2020
    i9 10900k@ 10@5. 0+ -32gb ddr4-3090rtx 2100@9900 -2 x 1 gb 970s-10 watt
    since i got the setup been adding id="hidden27" to collection from 2010 2023 mostly play 2019 on, 90 + game at 1440p 165hz 27 inch 3090rtx gaming oc has done better than all sli and single past cards i have in holding strong at 1440p
    one game 90 - 120 fps max setting a 2016 game watch dog 2 smooth still
    2 max setting under 100 fps cyberpunk 2077 rdr 2
    3 or 4 games 90 -130+ smoothly. Yes been pleased a lot with 3090rtx my last 2 hames resident evil village 140 160 fps max 1440p and uncharted 4 remastered 2022 140 160fpd
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    @Cakezeedoui10 months ago I wanted to buy the 4070ti so bad, why does it have to come with 12gb vram ffs.
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    @w0ody16last year About the cpu bottleneck issue you bring up, i am having to get a 7800x3d to get my smooth 4k 120hz out of my 7900xtx. Wish it was out already. All the . ...Expand 3
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    @jooyichenlast year One very important factor not considered in this review. That is the incredibly fast growth of a. I. Technology
    1. Nobody plays at 4k native. latest generation titles is actually set at 1440p
    2. Dlss blurs the lines between hardware benchmarks in terms of practical experience. Consider this. Nvidia had a recent update on dlss2 that levels up every setting by 1.
    ulta performance ( 720p ) looks like performance. Performance looks like balance, and so on.
    3. Frame generation - all eyes are on amd to deliver on their fsr3 once again. If they fail to make fg available for everyone, that means:
    - the 40 cards would not have a different experience than someone who plays at native res using the 3090 ti, leaving space because of upscaling, and no stutters. Also, the frame generation would be the equalizer to all the performance woes. It gives access to settings that are not even available to the 3090 ti for an enjoyable experience.
    4. This a. I. Technology is no joke. Don' t underestimate them. For a practical example, i own a 4070 ti. Here' s my experience.
    - cyberpunk. 4k + balance upscaling + psycho settings at 50-60fps. Lower power consumption. Smoother playing experience. I am having a better experience than someone with a 3090. This setting may not even be playable for that card.
    - 60-70ms latency even if you start at 30+ fps base frame rate ( for fg ) this is the latest console experience btw. Perfect for single-player gaming. Graphical glitches have been fixed as well unless you want to slow down everything at 10% with 2x zoom to be nitpicky.
    that' s practically speaking
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    @Davis2920022001last year 192bit bus
    i play dcs vr, 3090 ftw be it unstable unless you use boost lock.
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    @DKTronics706 months ago Wait until that 4070ti runs out of vram, then your 3090 will just laugh, while keeping a decent enough fps.
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    @khaansulu5695last year The 7900s are better price to performance. 7900 xt is cheaper than even the 4070 in aus. Nvidia is not worth it unless you want ray-tracing for some stupid . ...Expand
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    @zigzagallahlast year 4070 ti is down scaled too much. With only 12 gb of ram and the meager 192 bit memory bus, it' s comical to think this investment for a gpu will be . ...Expand 47
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    @ek2who7 months ago Such a bad conclusions. Hope you understood it months later. Completely missed huge l2 cache and new gen tensor cores for faster dlss.
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    @chrisjensen8307last year Getting a 4070ti versus a used 3090 ti at a better price, is a little dumb. The 4070ti only has 12 gb vram and half the bit bus of a 3090. So in my opinion, the 3090 is the better card.
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    @davidcole23377 months ago The answer is no in most games but in 1440p the answer is yes.
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    @tensor8804last year You consider only " fair play" comparison and completely missing 4070ti' s dirty trick - dlss 3, which just blows away even 3090ti in any resolution, even 8k.
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    @glbernini0last year Don' t think noticeable discounts will happen until 2024. Nvidia is making way to much money!
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    @robertalucard4055last year God there is some cobblers on this thread, from people who just cant enjoy games anymore. The 4070 ti is a great card and will still be rocking in three years time. 4
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    @Anibal-xx11.11 months ago Ti sei sbagliato la 4070 12 g non va di piu della 3090 strix oc 24 g specialmente in 4 k arifallo il benc.
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    @clo1298last year 6950 xt - 3% less performance, 25% more vram, 25% less $ than 4070ti
    7900 xt - 7% more performance, 40% more vram, 3% less $ than 4070ti.
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    @VatiWahlast year From what ive seen, 4070ti gets more frames (50-60 frames) but it is studdery. But with a 3090 (40 frames) it is lower frames and smooth.
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    @elotkarloketh1665 months ago 3090 has 936. 2 gb/s of vram while 4070ti has only 504 gb/s of vram, so 3090 is a lot faster in some situations.
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    @Spreadie10 months ago I remember hating the fact that i couldn' t find a 3080 in stock, two and a half years ago, and being forced to cough up for the only high end card i wish i could claim this was a savvy investment at the time, but it was just pure dumb luck. Not complaining at all though.
    do i look smug? I feel smug
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    @REgamesplayerlast year The problem is that rtx 4070 ti can' t even give me a solid 60 fps gaming experience on 1440p in modern games. Who cares about 4k on this gpu? I can' t furthermore, there is always amd for 4k. Don' t be a fanboy and you won' t be forced to pay up for 4k gaming from an greedvidia. ...Expand
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    @duckilythelovely3040last year Ummm
    accept all new games that matter will have frame generation, doubling that fps. Literally being added to unreal 5 kit. We alreadyt see it 3090?
    yep, stuck down at the buttom.
    do not buy a 30 anything over a 40. It' s stupid
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    @tsahivlast year Thanks for the video, however, u dont need to wait for the future in gaming to see how handicapped the 4070ti is. Check hogwarts legacy in 4k on the 4070ti. It' s a stuttery mess.
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    @turboimport95last year You are putting too much effort into understanding bandwidth etc. Specs are not all that meaning full. My 4080 has less bandwidth so is it slower then . ...Expand 1
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    @PcGamingForFunlast year 3080 ti is far better gpu than 4070ti with that 192bit bus. I have gotten around 3~6 fps difference between a good tuned 3080 ti pc and 4080.
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    @javiermd5835last year Another scam from team jensen. Theyre trying so hard to sell 4080s.
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    @gex581990last year Half the bandwidth is just absolute stupidity. 40 series is complete overpriced dogshit besides 4090 and i don' t want one of those ugly ogres in my case unless it was watercooled or something. 3
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    @Keebz.G4 months ago Its the same situation when 1080ti was around and rtx2080 came out. In the end if u want to enjoy a game the 1080ti wins way ahead. Same goes to rtx3090 will be better than 4070ti crap.
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    @D9NYVlast year So the 4070ti is a ripoff for 4k your paying alot of money for a 1440p card and it' s not going to age well wow nvidia you are rip-offs and lie in your presentations.
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    @__-fi6xglast year 4070 ti is for costumers that want a 30 series card but want to pay slightly more.
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    @d4mterro320last year I genuinely think you need to take the price into account no matter the price problems lately. 180 extra watts is not a good argument to combat the 3090 . ...Expand
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    @yellowsausage77148 months ago Its crazy that my laptop is as powerful as these two gpu' s.